tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8957911.post2740201316798896872..comments2024-03-15T21:51:30.609-07:00Comments on Iron Tongue of Midnight: Americans in RomeLisa Hirschhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14014924958428072675noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8957911.post-41669836995427446922009-02-13T11:53:00.000-08:002009-02-13T11:53:00.000-08:00Thanks!Thanks!Lisa Hirschhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14014924958428072675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8957911.post-23194281660054752552009-02-12T21:04:00.000-08:002009-02-12T21:04:00.000-08:00Not to mention Susan BottiNot to mention Susan BottiUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16953998843047031210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8957911.post-20060336384577372032009-02-12T20:54:00.000-08:002009-02-12T20:54:00.000-08:00Recently also -Carolyn YarnellShihue ChenRecently also -<BR/><BR/>Carolyn Yarnell<BR/>Shihue ChenUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16953998843047031210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8957911.post-52560769553721246692008-10-13T15:49:00.000-07:002008-10-13T15:49:00.000-07:00Yes to both of those!Yes to both of those!Lisa Hirschhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14014924958428072675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8957911.post-35452795293826683392008-10-12T22:53:00.000-07:002008-10-12T22:53:00.000-07:00There are two separate complaints here, and they o...There are two separate complaints here, and they ought to be differentiated:<BR/><BR/>1) Against the Academy for not choosing more of the qualified women candidates;<BR/><BR/>2) Against the CD's selectors for not choosing more of the women who did go to Rome.<BR/><BR/>And looking at the list you provide, I'd say the second complaint as well as the first has validity. In particular, omitting Ellen Zwilich? Come on!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8957911.post-2414877638660799832008-10-12T21:13:00.000-07:002008-10-12T21:13:00.000-07:00Here are all the women who've received the Rom...Here are all the women who've received the Rome Prize in composition:<BR/><BR/>Barbara Kolb, 1971 & 1976<BR/>Tamar Diesendruck, 1984<BR/>Kathryn Alexander, 1989<BR/>Michelle Ekzian, 1989<BR/>Ellen Taafe Zwillich, 1990<BR/>Bun-Ching Lam, 1992<BR/><BR/>The directories are on line here: http://www.sof-aarome.org/sof_directories.html<BR/><BR/>It's worth a look to see who gets the music fellowships and who doesn't. There are some luminaries and many unknowns. I'm not persuaded that everyone who got them wrote the best music or that women who didn't get the prize wrote less good music than many men who did.Lisa Hirschhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14014924958428072675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8957911.post-26776505471204457582008-10-12T20:03:00.000-07:002008-10-12T20:03:00.000-07:00After googling the other ambiguous names, I found ...After googling the other ambiguous names, I found that Bun-Ching Lam is the only other woman represented.<BR/><BR/>Actually, I wasn't even aware that Diesendruck is a woman. Not that I'm too familiar with her work. But I do remember being left with good impressions of it.<BR/><BR/>But surely there's been more women than Lam and Diesendruck at the Academy, right?Kyle Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10650247755477900021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8957911.post-62769530018396596512008-10-12T14:09:00.000-07:002008-10-12T14:09:00.000-07:00That's part of the implied point of my posting. Th...That's part of the implied point of my posting. There aren't that many women who've won the Rome Prize; the list of women who were overlooked is quite long. Yes, women who wrote excellent music.Lisa Hirschhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14014924958428072675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8957911.post-10216154062839349002008-10-12T14:03:00.000-07:002008-10-12T14:03:00.000-07:00How many female composers were fellows of the Amer...How many female composers were fellows of the American Academy during the period covered? It may be that there weren't more female composers to choose from.<BR/><BR/>Not that I think the compilers <I>should</I> have been concerned with gender; more important by a long shot is choosing the best music, regardless of who wrote it.Keithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07413428735864060575noreply@blogger.com